document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Chris Watts isnt my hero. I always slept in a bra when I was in my 20s and 30s. Kick him? The plea deal meant that he was spared the death penalty, and was instead sentenced to multiple life prison terms without the possibility of parole. What information to that extent do you expect *an autopsy* to provide?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYC7bHIzuqE. I wondered if there was a fight, Bella saw him strangle her mother and ran into the basement to hide from him. So she wasnt in rigor at the home and was likely just starting to show signs while he was burrying her at the site. He was presented with evidence before the plea deal, and we dont know the content of those conversations. The detective said not really. Her clothes were even coordinated by colour in the closet. Then he asks to talk to his dad. But considering she seemed to be an amazing mother, I highly doubt she was drinking. Watts isnt a trained jujitsu. He wanted out, didnt want the baby., and took the cowards way. Her neck muscles had been bruised and the manner of death was deemed a homicide. I think thats what she did (shed had an extra 3 hours of airport to be rid of!) I have no insight? He said it was emotional but a civil conversation and they were not arguing. Its horrible. It appeared to be an addiction by this point it was all she wanted to do. He had strangled me while I was pinned down to the floor, face up. Do you think he ninja-attacked her the moment she entered the house? Jayne is an EXTREMELY experienced K9 handler she can be seen in action in the Docu-Movie Missing 411. While some muscles spontaneously contract after death and though all muscles eventually tighten into rigor mortis others are loosening their grip entirely. My husband is 62, weighs 190 lb. Not one place on his body? I dont know her daily habits, but i use mine as an alarm. We know that she went to her office and attempted to order haircare products, and in the welfare check footage you can clearly see a large dark blanket on the sofa, and two small pink chair beds by the side of the sofa. There was a largely decomposed fetus expelled from the uterus. I take comfort in that, Bella and Cee Cee likely had no idea it was their dad doing that to them, but he wouldve wanted Shanann to know he was ending her life. Police photoA sheet was found near where Shanann was buried. I honestly believe Chris smothered them all with ethanol soaked cloths. Little Celeste, thankfully, seemed to have no idea what was happening to her. Also, in the 2-4 minutes it took him to kill Shannan, this father who would never hurt his kids, never looked at the visible baby bump and thought Im killing the baby too, I need to stop. Dont jump on me buthear me bnb ot, I believe Chris. She wanted to be, and really thought she was, a great mom. They are The People Of The Lie. (Scott Peck). He went from great dad to not wanting anything to do with them, me or any responsibilities. Then he felt he had to kill CeCe too. That is what is difficult; without a trial we have no way of knowing all the forensic evidence and what tests the state started to perform or did perform. They dissipate in inconvenient circumstances. 5. I think she was then taken, with her children, out of the rear of the property for concealment. Chris Watts. Watts has since pleaded guilty to killing his wife and daughters, as well as a charge of unlawful termination of a pregnancy. Shanann Watts Cause of Death: How Did the Colorado Mother Die? I always wondered why she didnt fight back, too. Her friend had to tiptoe around the place when she stayed over for fear of waking the kids up. The lie detector test question focused solely on her, didnt even mention the kids. Read Thomas Molletts forensic report https://crimerocket.com/2018/12/17/thomas-molletts-forensic-report-on-shanann-watts-post-mortem-blood-alcohol-level/. Shan'ann, Bella and Celeste Watts 25 Page Autopsy Report | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek CRIME NEWS WATTS KNOX JonBenet MCCANN WM3 PENDING TOOLBOX TCRS YOUTUBE ARCHIVE One body was face down in the south side of the tank. Unfortunately she never got the chance. It is most likely that the girls were dead by 6 PM Sunday night already, which was why Chris couldnt reschedule the murders as soon as he heard ShanAnns flight would be delayed, thereby cutting dangerously into his cleanup time. No, ONE fully-formed, perfect adult and TWO fully-formed, perfect BABIES. For nothing. Bella was face up, so oil had oozed into her stomach and lungs. I hope he gets what he deserves while he is in prison!!!!!! And honestly Im sure he had a lot of time on his hands to do stuff. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/12/lkl.01.html, There are more details about the Watts precarious and declining financial situation in the body of this article as well: https://shakedowntitle.com/tag/scott-peterson/. The trauma dogs noted hot spots in the basement. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. Thats why the strangulation was gentle, not violent, as the hyoid was not broke, and there were no defensive wounds to her or him. Under anaerobic conditions (absence of free oxygen) acids such as lactic acid, acetic acid and butyric acid are produced during decomposition, as well as a number of alcohols which include butyl alcohol, ethyl alcohol and acetone. Chris Watts destroyed three fully formed, perfect adults. This sick bastard should have done everyone a favor and took his own life. Debbie do you have a link to that 411 Documentary please? Peanuts and tree nuts are VERY different, and supposedly CeCe had a *tree nut* allergy coconut, not peanuts! No evidence of cake or undigested dinner. They have no empathy, which enables them to be incrediably cruel, if it suits. My son has many medical issues as well, doesnt make me a hypochondriac ffs she isnt here to defend herself maybe back off a bit. Ive been on those late flight arrivals often. I dont know about you, but I definitely dont sleep in mine. (He left the house as the sun was coming upmore on this below). Nickole called Christopher Watts and requested he come home and check on Shanann. Based on the clothing they were found in, probably Chris pretended to be asleep. But I want to know so badly the time of death. He then pursued and strangled her there. I lived with one. But then I think if he didnt was he going to leave them at home alone all day? Just asking a question. There are a lot of types online who get off on blaming victims for what others do. Smothering is albeit horrific, a more a gentle or approach that a mother may take. Wanting to know why is simply that wanting to know why. You can pooh-pooh OCD if its not you, but OCD especially for someone with a chronic disease tends to be quite significant. So what Was his motivation for that? I guess he did want to get rid of them all, and do it all over again with her. Exhausting and she was pregnant. Also, he usually goes to the office in the morning and then goes out to the sites but the night before he called and told a coworker he was going to the site. like others, cannot wrap my brain around his behavior. If thats the case I cant figure where else they would have been at that time. Her Dad stated that Shanann would often sleep on the sofa when he stayed at the house, and again when she was in NC after Chris arrived. I think he had mental issues too. No traces of fecal material found, but in the Rohde case there were fecal traces. Im a survivor. It was a matter of how they were immersed in the oil. Some people never saw. @nickdvl. Areas of bruising, internal. I also believe he had that conversation in the morning because I dont know many women that sleep in their bras. Much more interest in the case in his home state; in Wisconsin, hes just a number. Chris Watts was convicted of murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, their unborn child, and their two children, Celeste and Bella, ages 4 and 3. If anything, I would say its more like few / some. He would have had more than enough access to ethanol or similar alcohols. When youre pregnant, your chest grows significantly and pretty rapidly- its completely understandable that she might have been wearing one to bed. No, it doesnt. He pushes her off CeCe and strangles her with both hands ( he demonstrates ) I go back & forth wondering if he planned on killing the kids, or if Bella saw & then he had too. Does anyone know where I can view the autopsy pictures and/or videos? So while he would have possibly had more of a mess to clean up with ShanAnn than with the girls, it was contained, unlike the mess of that horrid Patrick Frazee who killed Kelsey Berreth by braining her with a baseball bat. Shananns Autopsy Report states, There is a linear array of variably sized, purple black circular defects which extend from the inferior aspect of the chin, along the jawline, up the left aspect of the face, towards the left temporal area. If we can believe his scenario, that also sounds like Shannn wasnt trying to kill her daughter like Chris thought, which meant neither of them killed her which leaves someone who must have entered the home by using an access code that wouldnt trip the alarm and I wonder who that might be ((cough*mistress*cough)) if Chriss scenario is correct of course! Advertisement. He dug the grave with a shovel. Im wondering if he had bipolar. Police saw a bed sheet. He tells his vindictive wife that he wants out. Rigor mortis lasts 8-12 hours. Shannann even said that he was like another person. If Chris had not had the affair, he would not have killed his family! Good work. Ive seen many people die in the hospital where I worked- not everyone poops when they die (and their stomachs were empty)- except the oil in the Angels stomach. It takes 2-4 min for a person to die from smothering or strangulation. This would also suggest that the Stranglehold was done with a right arm, as this would correlate to the right-sided internal bruising, and the left-sided external bruising. No sign of that either. He snapped and I was terrified of him. I did hear shananns mom say let them in her daughters house. Also, wasnt her phone found in between couch cushions. I dont know why the Watts murders have affected me like this. And did you mention that the 6 weeks Shannan was in NC with her girls that your Hero Chris Watts was enjoying 6 weeks of being single with his girlfriend, and that was the turning point in their marriage? Scares me honestly. through the skin in heated arguments which are undetectable to the human nose in the same way attraction pheromones are undetectable to our noses ). . Or carbon monoxide poisoning [something a former mechanic and oil worker would know about]. Maybe we can do a group letter and petition: dear Watts, what happened??! No, I dont believe she was drinking at all, considering she was pregnant. give me a break. Chris came home and gave consent to search and said that he found Shananns wedding ring on the night stand. 53 102 comments sorted by New Add a Comment Yes, Posted Youtube videos shows that her office was messy. This autopsy is performed at the request of the Weld County Coroner, State of Colorado. He asked one time if he should go look for his familyhe did not ask again about looking and he did not seem overly concerned, the police report said. That is what this whole thing boils down to, Chris not wanting a divorce for the simple fact of having to pay child support on 3 kids. So when he pulls her off theres not one last gasping breath, she dies at that exact moment and theres nothing Chris can do but kill Shannan!!!! 2. http://www.timescall.com/ci_32281483/autopsy-reports-show-shanann-watts-daughters-were-asphyxiated, But Celeste didnt have oil her stomach. @Karen did she get dressed for bed, or did she simply take of her jeans, throw off her flip-flops and decide to settle down for a couple of hours sleep wearing the bra, panties and t-shirt that she arrived home in? Ive considered morphine [since Shanann was a lupus sufferer, and needed strong pain meds], but morphine should have come up in the autopsy. Why would she quit her job to be a stay-at-home mom and then put the tots right into full-time daycare? Read my above post. @Lisa if shed already died she would have not been engaged in the act of strangling her like he said. YES! The manner of death is homicide, the autopsy report says. After reading the 2000 page discovery & the autopsy report & listening to the FBI agent talk about other cases I learned that smothering by manual force is done very frequently to children. He just switched. I also believe Shanann was also sleeping when the attack occurred which could explain her lack of putting up a fight. Watts at first tried to claim that when he told Shanann he wanted a separation, she killed their daughters. Your email address will not be published. With that much free time in the day, she could have gotten a part-time job and brought home real money. 19th Judicial District Attorney Michael Rourke said that Watts totally and deliberately ended four lives, smothering the girls. Just like those rare occasions where you laughed so hard you peed in your pants, you will pee and poop in the spontaneous relaxation of your muscles following death. I wore my bra at night sometimes as well while pregnant because they become larger, heavier and more tender. She also could not stand Shannan. It may interest people to see how MLM companies such as Thrive, train their customers and promoters in Time and Management and Organisational skills, both of which can be classified as OCD behaviours to an untrained eye. Thanks for the paper, ganana Im with you on this. Shed been drinking?? Watts, who had initially reported them missing and had made a public plea for their return, was arrested as he admitted to killing them. Page 582, 6. Weld County DA In the text, Shanann also tells Chris that he hasn't shown any signs of missing her in the weeks they have been apart. I believe the frenulum injury could be explained from the process of stuffing her head through the thief hatch post mortem it was a tight squeeze with the larger child. while he killed them one after another. https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/rohde-court-told-of-faeces-in-spier-hotel-room-15629834. He organized the bins in the basement. The girls were wearing nightgowns, Cece a pink nightgown with birds on it, and Bellas nightgown had a unicorn or believe on it. Rude person. I guess my vanity rubbed off on her. I chose this thread that details the grisly aspects of the deaths to post it because, after reading the entire thing, it almost seems that there was an unrecognized accomplice in the Watts family murders. Gallstones form over a period of time, raised hormone levels in pregnancy contribute to them. He is not only a monster, but also a coward, by quickly disabling his victims. I consider it strange to have them there FT at their age, given the business she was inseems like it could have been done around an at home schedule for the girls, IMO. no she was a good mom who looked after her kids! Not on his hands around her throat? Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. Plenty of women do. The autopsy results aren't available, but the funeral and grave site suggest that Niko's remains were either removed, destroyed or buried with his mother. Shanann was in there with her on top of her. And then you test it in various scenarios. LEE: Depends on sometime we find saliva, large amount of saliva, nasal secretion, mixed with small amount of blood on the pillow. Or look up the video of the DA talking about the autopsies. Bellas covers were pulled off and she was just lying in bed. You may say murder itself is cowardice, but if youre the murderer, youre taking a huge risk, and if youre an introverted murderer, youre being your version of brave by physically confronting and attacking someone. Based on the history provided and the autopsy findings, the cause of death is asphyxiation due to smothering. its pretty clear they went to bed like normal >>>How is it pretty clear? The autopsy reports for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters show that all three were asphyxiated to death, and it's probable that 4-year-old Bella Watts fought for her life.. There are FBI profilers who are trained at reading people by what they dont say & in Chriss case sometimes he says too much.
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